Permalink As I understand Shah (it’s some many years because I examine the book) TRB OUD R became “trobador” in Spanish also indicating “finder” and spread to Provencal, wherever the verbal relationship for the lute was shed as well as the finder use was transliterated directly from Langue d’Oc https://music-zone32222.frewwebs.com/31405247/oud-music-an-overview